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    3 ping spoofers

    in Reporting detected cheater

    Posted · Edited by Wiz

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    Screenshots of them with ping spoof floated around.

    @ ZLOFENIX  from the IP logs in zclient you should be able to see that their IPs are all from Iraq, except recently, they started to use a VPN to Germany).

    It is physically impossible for them to have 11 ms from Iraq.

    Proof:

    Let us assume that the server is in Paris and they have a perfect geodesic line from Iraq to Paris.

    For clarification: geodesic lines are the SHORTEST POSSIBLE DISTANCE between 2 points on a sphere.

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    Taking a geodesic from the middle of Iraq to Paris gives us 3823 km.

    3823000 m/(299792458 m/s) (the speed of light) = 0.0127521554 s = 12.8 ms

    (Edit: electrons travel at about walking speed, but the signal speed in copper is close to but less than the speed of light. However, this does not disprove anything below)

    However, ping is not one way, ping means the time it takes for a packet to travel to the server and back, meaning the lowest POSSIBLE PING from Iraq (because this is a geodesic, so this is the SHORTEST possible distance to Paris) is 12.8*2 ms = 25.6 ms. Their pings in game are 10, 11 ms - physically impossible even if they had a 3800 km fiber cable directly to the ovh datacenters.

    Not only that, but their packets don't travel along geodesics, there is routing, there is jitter, which changes the ping, it adds more latency on top, so you can add any number to their smallest possible ping to get closer to the real smallest possible ping.

    In any case; they have less than half of the smallest possible ping along the shortest possible distance from Iraq to the Panda server in France, which means: they are spoofing their ping*, which has a high probability of being part of a fuller cheat.

     

    And some food for thought (same clan, same country):

     

    *: Addendum; ping spoofing can be done clientside, if needed I can link a public source which can spoof pings, it is by logic the same exact reading/writing of memory as a cheat.

    If there is some doubt about the distance of that geodesic, I can add a calculation of it by latitude and longitude =)

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    Lilteezy12

    in Reporting detected cheater

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    9 hours ago, Brendo said:

    There are many misunderstandings in the whole topic. Reported for "No Spread" but you can't prove no spread without spectator view, it's even almost impossible if you don't play the game all the time. In general, you should know the gaming/guns mechanics of bf4. It can be a normal macro that also does the same job :) 

    Actually nospread is even harder to prove in spectator. There are only very rare cases where you can really definitely prove nospread. (Anecdote: there was a spectator video of ebashu before he was banned, and in 5 seconds of 15 minutes he hipfired at a wall and his bullets made a perfectly straight line. However the chance of this ever happening is so, so low, and it's so, so easy to miss it, since spectator videos can go for 10-60 minutes.)

    As a general rule of thumb, it's almost impossible to prove 100% from gameplay videos, and even harder from spectator, and it's anyone's guess if someone's death was by nospread or not. However if you see someone using guns like the AEK, Famas, PDWs (in general, weapons which are weak at range due to high spread values) and beaming people across the map then some degree of suspicion is certainly justified. But Mr. Lilteezy here is a bit smarter than the average closet cheater, he plays ACE 21 and ACE 52 CQB, weapons which are fairly competent at ranges where other weapons such as the AEK-971 begin to fail.

    tl;dr: to the rest of this people in this thread good luck proving anything especially since he could just toggle off his cheats when you ask him to record a video :derisive:

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